Today's episode is part two of a conversation with Loren Romeus -- writer, preacher, and Executive Director of the T & T Project. We discuss the Ravi Zacharias scandal as well as the controversial podcast chronicling Mark Driscoll's conduct as the pastor of now defunct Mars Hill in Seattle. We dig into the possibility that God is at work in these scandalous circumstances, digging new ground in the lives of His Church through the pain and discomfort of facing facts.

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